The "Gem State Potato Processing Plant" blanches, cooks, and mashes potatoes 24/7. Kathryn's Report (kathrynsreport.com) Kathryn's Report: This Aviation Blog Is Permanently Open (kathrynsreport.com) Edit, as Eman said, "permanently closed for a little while" , the entry now says permanently open. Where the airplane could've flown 20 feet further, then everyone may have walked away. This mishap shows that regardless of who you are, physics and gravity and speed of impact are no respecter of persons. WHY? The aircraft departed the Houston . There is something definitely sticking above the top of the chimney on a yellow pole coming from the cage.While it will be interesting to see if the GPS or WAAS signal was degraded for the GPS RWY 20 approach, the pilot should have been in visual conditions./ME. New Jersey Herald. This was going under minimums on a non-precision approach and the results are as expected. One more correction, 230 feet above the ground isn't 160 feet above the stack. When the airport manager says things to you like "it don't look good to me I don't know what you guys are thinkin'." All messages must be civil in tone; if critical, must be constructive. A pilot can do a CDFA to the VDP, or "dive and drive" to the self-calculated VDP, either is legal, OK. If you were a pilot you would know that warm/wet air has very little lift. The accident happened at sunrise and coincided with rush hour. On a hot day, fine droplets may evaporate before they can fall, so there is only rising air. So you can't put much stock in the shown FlightAware track log data being that accurate.2. and should have gone around or made sure the diamonds were centered.https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N928JP/history/20220413/1300Z/KSLC/KBYI/tracklogBoth of those approaches aren't as stabilized so my guess is that she was experiencing a lot of turbulence though the winds were fairly light (8kts) and practically straight down the runway (190). Only difference is the pleasurable physical appearance of the pilot. She applied power and nose up to go around but the steam cloud pulled her right into the stack.Or maybe you're smarter than the ntsb investigators right there at the scene interviewing witnesses and looking at the weather conditions and the runway and what happened? Runway 20 has one. He later served as city attorney for Arcadia and a judge for the Los Angeles County Superior Court. Kathryn S Report Cessna 320d Executive Skyknight N320mf Registered And Operated By Gv Air Inc Fatal Accident Occurred June 28 2018 In Fairfield Utah County Utah The process needs to be robust and agnostic in the person being hired. Even if you were trying to duck under, you aren't ducking at -857/min at 4800 ft. (Jamid) MDA 4560 which is 240 ft then another 406 ft 4154 elevation - 646 fpm would get you there (at 90 knots). Yes, sorry about the typo, runway 20, not 30. RIP. You clearly don't know how ASOS works. A Cessna 182 left Meridian, Mississippi, at 4:21 p.m. CDT, bound for Columbus, Georgia, with two aboard. An Airmens Meteorological Information (AIRMET) advisory was active for icing and mountain obscurations for areas that included BYI.By the way, the automated weather facility at KBYI is an ASOS, not AWOS. Sometimes it's relevant to the accident but most often than not, it just adds a layer of emotion that I can do without.When I look at this story, I tend to reason backwards: the Caravan hit a stack. 2021 Milan airplane crash. Carrying that angle across the river and over to the factory she should have been approximately 230 feet above the ground and 160 feet above those stacks. I think you are attacking the wrong anonymous commenter. is quite a claim. Why was the pilot of the Caravan 75-80' agl, only 2500' from the threshold? However the one eye witness tells a different story. first opened in 1940, KBYI is publicly-owned by the CITY OF BURLEY, ID, which the father is demanding be closed. "blame it on the steam cloud" assigns no responsibility, no liability. So, again, false. Brittney lived life to its fullest. Precision matters to actual pilots. "It doesn't seem like you understand how ASOS works. Please stop commenting on things you don't even comprehend or until you bother to understand the known facts. It's not just a pipe. Minter was elected to the Santa Monica City Council in 1955 and served as mayor from 1963-1967. He's getting his wish. youre implying that a 30 year old female had a major medical incident the moment she was on final approach in marginal wx and that caused the accident. )Here are those two points, with map-pinned locations, measured distance between them and difference in raw reported altitude:Data and mapping at the edge of the Gem building:Wed 10:32:25 AM 42.5520 -113.7592 217 80 92 4,150 -857Call this Data Point "A" and google map pin it:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5520+-113.7592Data and mapping at 21 seconds and 2,650 feet horizontal distance before reaching the Gem building's edge and 300 feet higher:Wed 10:32:04 AM 42.5578 -113.7532 216 81 93 4,450 -750Call this Data Point "B" and google map pin it:http://maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5578+-113.7532Determine angle using rise run:Rise: -300 feetRun: 2,650 feetFlown descent angle between final two data points = -6.5Now, repeat the calculation from JAMID to "B":First, find JAMID coordinates from FAA database:JAMID location coordinates: 42-33-59.2100N 113-44-39.3500WJAMID location converted to decimal: 42.566447, -113.744264Map pin the location of JAMID:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.566447+-113.744264Choose nearest ADS-B data point to JAMID from FA track log:Wed 10:31:37 AM 42.5669 -113.7437 216 103 119 4,750 -663Call this Data point "C" and google map it:maps.google.com/maps?t=k&q=loc:42.5669+-113.7437(JAMID's location maps about 200 feet SWest of this data point)N928JP's location at JAMID includes an uncorrected altitude of 4,750 feet, 300 feet higher than and 4,166 feet horizontally distant from the Wed 10:32:04 AM 42.5578 -113.7532 data point "B".Determine angle from JAMID to "B" using rise run:Rise: -300 feetRun: 4,166 feetFlown descent angle between JAMID and point "B" = -4.1Everybody understands that ADS-B can be terribly inaccurate, but when you add the expected +50' pressure correction to the 4,750' reported at JAMID, the data suggests that the pilot appears to be "on" at JAMID. A pilot is a pilot and she made a mistake and hit something she knew was there. On April 13, 2022, about 0832 mountain daylight time, a Cessna 208B Grand Caravan, N928JP, was substantially damaged when it was involved in an accident near Heyburn, Idaho. The last "reliable" data point on ADS-B was @ 08:32:25 at an altitude of 4150' MSL and a position of 42.5520,-113.7592 which is almost directly at the stack. In her job as Commissioner Doris is in the forefront of efforts to retain the very busy Santa Monica airport which is threatened by a very small but vocal group of neighbors and an unsympathetic City Council. It was hands down the seat belt and shoulder harness and a hell of a lot of luck. Those stacks were well outside where any airplane should ever find itself. It is unfortunate that Mr. Minter was in an airplane accident, but the stories so far have not discovered his interest and involvement in aviation:"Raised in Santa Monica, Minter served in The United States Marine Corps. Having survived a Cessna 150 crash into a forest I can attest first hand that shoulder harness' save lives. I am extremely sorry for her parents and other loved ones. Burley is considering a new airport location:https://www.idahostatejournal.com/news/local/burley-ready-to-move-forward-with-new-airport-project-asks-counties-for-support/article_5a0c977c-3015-5dec-bd16-35979dfa8cdf.html, This is probably the hardest commercial flying job around Pilot is the third most dangerous job.Fatal injuries per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers: 58.9https://www.cnbc.com/2019/12/27/the-10-most-dangerous-jobs-in-america-according-to-bls-data.htmlRenowned airshow performer Eric Beard also died as a freight dog pilot.https://archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=20060108&slug=webpilot08YouTube https://youtu.be/LivNwDABHdwNTSB https://generalaviationnews.com/2006/09/22/ntsb-cites-pilot-error-in-january-airpac-crash/. From the many news sources From the ntsb, it was the steam cloud:"According to a witness, located about one quarter mile away, he first heard, then observed the airplane descend out of the clouds then immediately went into a steam cloud, which was produced from a set of six smokestacks located on the same roof. Nevertheless, based on the actual weather, security video and eye witness report, the visibility was 1SM at the time of the accident, giving the pilot only 16 seconds from breaking out, to react before hitting the tower. Nothing was cut. Precision matters to actual pilots. The 200 nm flight was to be VFR, no flight plan, at 5,500 feet. Private Jet Sales Exclusive Aircraft. Louisiana are three of the apparent victims in a plane crash in Lefthand Canyon west of Boulder on July 17. Even from a short distance, the stacks are completely obscured. Also, someone suggested that the engine might of cut out which I never heard as an issue for that engine.A lot of theory's and conjecture which I find every theory interesting. veteran helicopter pilot reviews kobe bryant crash air. Touchdown elevation is 4,152'. I can see someone trying to land on the roof of that factory, confusing it for the extended threshold of the runway in the bad conditions. Cessna T337G Super Skymaster, N337KN: Fatal accident occurred July 17, 2022 in Gold Hill, Boulder County, Colorado . I only have about 8,000 hours behind PT engines, so what do I know? Hi, thanks for the info and the link. The crash is under investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board and the Federal Aviation Administration. FlightAware displays ground speed, not IAS, so you have to account for winds loft, which can be significantly higher than reported surface winds.3. There are many approaches just as challenging, that's why you respect the MDA and you do not descend unless the runway is in sight. The A/FD mentions the threshold is displayed 305 feet due to the stack. Other company pilots: "BYI steam is routine, I can land there just fine"7. Also the color of the building itself? The airplane came to rest on its right side. Here are those METARs:KBYI 131430Z AUTO 20007KT 2SM -SN BR BKN021 OVC028 M03/M06 A2997 --- crash occurred @ 14:32 Z ---KBYI 131440Z AUTO 21008KT 2 1/2SM -SN BKN030 OVC047 M03/M06 A2997In spite of those reports, the pilot's reputation is being maligned with the "intentionally busted minimums" assertion. (Lateral integrity of 0.3 nm. https://imgur.com/a/7FTQ82nThe runway has no VASI, PAPI or other visual glidepath aid to indicate that you are dangerously close to hitting those obstacles. When I look at Google Earth and that smoke stack it obvious it was only a matter of time before that stack met a plane trying to make the runway. Peace. The single pilot 135 accident rate is actually much lower than the overall GA rate, despite the challenging conditions in which "those pilots" fly day in and day out. The MDA is 4560 with a TDZE of 4152; so 408 above with a requirement of 1 mile visibility. Anonymous Wednesday, December 21, . The Gem plant was described as newly constructed when highlighted in a 2012 upgrade project info page:http://www.roguepump.com/documents/gem-state-processing-case-study.pdf, The Gem Plant in Heyburn shows up at 2010 on the company history timeline, here:https://www.oregonpotato.com/aboutopc/#history, January 2011 news article expected the new plant to be up and running spring or early summer that year:https://www.potatopro.com/news/2011/burleyheyburn-dehydrated-potato-plant-open-early-year. She was descending at 700 / minute. That obstacle is this 140 foot radio tower near the United Metals Recycling plant, which is 0.6 NM north east of the Gem State stack:https://www.google.com/maps/@42.5584036,-113.7480359,3a,86.2y,335.86h,111.79t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sfD-logCbUr79CSW4DcVyPQ!2e0!7i13312!8i6656None of the Gem State stacks are shown anywhere on the approach plate. Ditching in a foot or two of water thats spilling onto the sand, as he appeared to do, is so much easier than ditching outside the breakers where you would encounter wave crests and troughs. Her distraught father, Jim Bob Infanger (right), has said " Brittney knew the area well and flew to Burley International Airport all the time". Recent Google Map views show a very sturdy tubular platform and ladder system was added around the stack sometime after 2016. The POH manual in most light singles states that you don't deploy flaps during an engine out until your aim point can be confirmed to be made just as in regular landing configuration when powered. It doesn't provide the external factors such as bird strikes or the flight deck conversation to know the human factors. The airport instrumentation tells a story regarding what is happening at the airport. Seems possible that dynamic weather conditions prior to what is captured in the video could have hampered visual obstacle recognition approaching the plant.Kameraone.com's scene video:https://www.kameraone.com/trending-stories/#7568616See also sky condition in this News2 photo:https://idahonews.com/resources/media/a208fbff-8980-455e-84de-b4b81621fe20-medium16x9_KMVT_PHoto.JPG?1649892680255. You have nailed it. As I mentioned in a comment above, the 4304' obstacle shown on the RWY 20 approach plate plan view is NOT any of the stacks at Gem State plant. At some time before noon on August 7, 2020, a Turbo Cessna 210 took off from Roosevelt, Utah, for a fair-weather daytime flight. A plane that crashed in Hampton last month had no mechanical issues before it went down, killing Blue Origin astronaut Glen de Vries and his Essex County flight . What does ADSB have to do with this preventable accident? A Cessna 182P that went down during weather in Tennessee in early September was the 48 th fatality from crashes involving Cessnas in 2022, according to FAA data. *That's very little margin for error, and that's following the published approach on the plate. To Anonymous, dated Tuesday, April 19, 2022 at 2:55:00 AM EDTQuestion: What explanation do you have besides your technical dissertation of how to interpret ADS-B data for what occurred besides the broken busted minima mantra? that happens in many non precision approaches, very common.Someone commented:At reaching the edge of the building, 80 + 8 = 88 knots:Wed 10:32:25 AM 42.5520 -113.7592 217 80 92 4,150 -857Airspeed of 88 is ok, yes it fell off but stalling speed is in the low 60's.2nd the descent rate is -857. Cessna 172P Skyhawk, N97883: Fatal accident occurred October 06, 2022 at Newport News/Williamsburg International Airport (KPHF), Virginia National Transportation Safety Board - Accident Report Number: ERA23FA008 The Santa Monica Fire and Police Departments responded to the scene and were assisted by L.A. County Lifeguards. Kathryn's Report: Most Read All Time. In the video, the pilot clearly was trying to extend the flight path as much as possible to the very last few seconds. Yes exactly. Although the intake air has to take a 180 degree turn (so called reverse flow) in order to enter the compressor section, it is possible to encounter sufficient ice and snow accumulation to cause a flameout. (Flight at 6,200' MSL and below was "under" based on lowest layer of BKN021 reported in the METARS for the elevation 4,154 MSL field. The "what happened" seems evident, but "why it happened" is unknown and will likely remain that way. You sound like a true Ftard! Perhaps the pilot forgot them. The pilot was fatally injured. Since the pilot was already below the MDA in IMC, the combination of snow, cloud, the steam plume, low flight altitude (75 agl), did not allow her to see and avoid the tower.A review of air traffic control (ATC) communication with the pilot revealed the approach controller issued the pilot the current altimeter setting and verified that the pilot had the current weather and notices to airmen reports for BYI. A special automated weather report for BYI about the time of the accident reported 1 mile visibility in light snow and mist Video footage recovered from a security camera located on a processing plant revealed a view of the rooftop of the processing plant, along with a smokestack supported by steel framework on the roof. Two people were onboard the aircraft when the pilot reported engine issues after taking off from the Santa Monica Airport. She was outgoing, welcoming, and Christlike. Personal attacks and hate speech directed at the NTSB investigators, FAA investigators, Designated Pilot Examiners, Kathryn, as well as other members of the aviation blog, are unacceptable because they are not constructive. Anonymous, if the visibility was as good as you say it was, why did the pilot hit the tower? It is staggering that the FAA, local airport authority, and board of the "Gem State Potato Processing Plant" allowed this appalling situation. I can't tell, from Google Maps, if there is a light for that chimney. The data point location after which the 4.1 descent angle increased to 6.5 is one statute mile from the threshold.The initial 4.1 descent angle compares favorably with the 3.8 to 3.9 angle the company's substitute pilot flew in VFR conditions from JAMID all the way to 7th Avenue just two days after the accident, but a notable difference is that the accident pilot's 88 knots airspeed was 40 knots slower while experiencing mist and light snow. You hit MDA, see the runway, and continue descent to land, but maybe don't see the smokestack due to snow flurries and steam from it blowing toward you. I came to the same conclusion using approach plate data and Google Earth. Verifying that it is the correct stack by mapping the stack coordinates is somewhat of a leap of faith.Let's now work from the 79' and 89' clearances we got from adjusting your calcs by pretending that the nominal FAA elevation numbers were accurate. Maybe there could be a re-post with an explanation that new commenting is closed out of respect for survivors but final docket and CVR content is important to communicate for education and awareness. The imgur caption has the correct runway number. The twin engine Cessna reportedly came down near Andrews Avenue.Reports are []. Ever heard of a displaced threshold? Ice on the rotor and starter blades affects their performance and efficiency and may result in flame out. Sure, reported airport weather can be different than what you experience on approach, but it is quite unlikely that less than 1 mile off airport, the ceilings dropped from 2100 AGL to 200 AGL and visibility halved from 2SM to 1SM to keep the pilot in IMC when the airport weather was trending in the opposite direction. To wit, check out this video at the 16:46 mark:https://youtu.be/aRN3RJaW618, Here's an even better view of what those steam stacks do on a morning with very similar weather conditions to the crash. Easy enough to fact check using Adsbexchange and the LiveAtc recording.Results:-Cleared for takeoff @7 minute mark on LiveAtc-ADS-B shows airborne by @23:08:23Z-Flies along coast, gets halfway to Malibu-No airspeed or altitude trouble so far-ADS-B shows a turnback starting @23:14:00-"I'd like to return" @14 minute mark LiveAtc-ADS-B speed & altitude degrading on the way back-Declares Emergency just before 16 minute mark -ATC offers "left base for runway 3" @17 minute mark-ADS-B shows crossing the pier @23:18:04Simple to listen to comm audio source files for yourself:https://www.liveatc.net/archive.phpThis accident's file is found by selecting:Date: 22 December, Time: 2300-2330Z, Feed: "KSMO Tower #1". How could anyone be up here, see Gods creation, and doubt His love? she had asked. ADS-B does report a GPS altitude (although Flightaware does not show it), however this altitude is height above the ellipsoid, which can vary from true MSL by up to 150 feet depending where in the country you are, and this will also be different than the corrected barometric altitude shown on the pilot's altimeter due to a variety of factors that I won't go into here. they should be held to some degree of accountability for these life and death decisions they make to put these mostly inexperienced pilots in life or death situations. If the visibility was .5 SM better than reported, then the pilot would have had approximately 35 seconds from breaking out to see and avoid the tower. And why not change the color of runway lights so the really stand out from the rest of the city? KBYI has a 3.7 degree glidepath for obstacles, including the plant and the railroad brige, which would put her at 66.7 feet over the threshold and about 108 feet over the end of the displaced threshold. Not enough time for the air frame to ice up from steam. Confusingly, the approach plate says "VGSI and descent angles not coincident", but runway 20 does not have any sort of VGSI at all! Pilots who flew this approach repeatedly should have realised the peril, and taken action. Your top of stack AGL estimate is off somehow - the building roof would have to be 90 feet high. At just before noon high elevation. On August 25, 2001, a Cessna 402 twin-engine light aircraft crashed shortly after takeoff from Marsh Harbour Airport on the Abaco Islands of the Bahamas, killing the pilot and all eight passengers on board. An Airmens Meteorological Information (AIRMET) advisory was active for icing and mountain obscurations for areas that included BYI. Do that at many many airports and you'll probably hit something. The condensate can blow into your path within seconds, unexpectedly. 0:32. Either they didn't meet the criteria for inclusion or it was an oversight by the FAA. Left wing may have been inertia-separated.The wrecked engine bay is visible to the right of the flipped forward pilot's door and the PT-6 air plenum is identifiable in that torn open forward bay wreckage.Kameraone.com's scene video:https://www.kameraone.com/trending-stories/#7568616, For reference, a C208B PT-6 air plenum example photo:https://media.sandhills.com/img.axd?id=7257643989&wid=4326165471&rwl=False&p=&ext=&w=0&h=0&t=&lp=&c=True&wt=False&sz=Max&rt=0&checksum=MwQ%2b3%2fmnuLw%2bzq2hh%2ftYM0KEexS1%2fpTBK5zoSVQPYb8%3d, Active snow fall is captured after the 14 second mark in this video of the crash scene. There is photographic evidence of the stacks on the roof at the collision location in a 2018 Town News article about the plant, so they have been there at least that long. i know what my $ is on and it isnt your theory. The National Transportation Safety Board Aviation (NTSB) Accident Preliminary report said poor weather and flying low near a mountain may have impacted the Kekaha airplane crash that happened on . Remember to embrace and treasure every moment, just as she did. It's true that 109' separation isn't a lot, but the outdated overhead view of the stack that google maps shows tends to make commenters here miss the red steel base structure and sampler's work platform at the very top in the more recent street view images. On the descending side of each drum, flakes of dehydrated mash fall onto a second belt. So short that they don't meet FAA safety standards. Possible it was slightly iced during the approach to JAMID. There was a small plane crash in North Carolina on June 16, 2022. I watched a podcast a few days ago discussing a similar fatal ditching (N16JR) in the Santa Monica area that happened in 2006, the NTSB determined that the occupants were not wearing shoulder harnesses (because they didn't have any) and died due to drowning with complications from blunt force trauma. That's the only certainty we have at this stage about its position. Updated design. Both wings, the propeller assembly, belly pod, and the nose wheel separated from the fuselage. At some point, you have to recognize the risk. 1. Suggest you do a little searching for DG's past history/reputation. Potato plant in sight, underneath aircraft? Kathryn's Report: Most Read This Year Cessna 208B Grand Caravan, N928JP: Fatal accident occurred April 13, 2022 near Burley Municipal Airport (KBYI), Cassia County, Idaho Cirrus SR22 GTS, N24LA: Fatal accident occurred May 06, 2022 in the Atlantic Ocean near Tybee Island, Georgia During the flip, the right horizontal stabilizer contacted something, most likely the roof, but not with much force. Here's a link to the Aviation Safety Network report on the crash near Pine Grove, Oregon, USA on 09 January, 2021. As-flown airspeeds of two different freight company C208's approaching the Gem stacks are interesting to compare.N585SA BYI RW20 C208 VFR approaches:4/15/2022 120 knot GS + 27009KT wind component4/26/2022 096 knot GS + 22011KT wind component4/27/2022 127 knot GS + 28005KT wind componentN928JP BYI RW20 C208 VFR approach:4/04/2022 083 knot GS + 22009KT wind componentN928JP BYI RW20 C208 IMC approach w/crash:4/13/2022 081 knot GS + 19008KT wind component. The Newmar Dutch Star is available in 37-, 40-, and 43-foot coaches. The witness heard the engine increase in sound and saw the nose lift shortly before the airplane struck the smokestack and descend to the rooftop. The building/towers are a red herring, imho.Loved ones can't blame the person they just lost. Applying the full +50 feet of declared tolerance to 100' AGL and 4,256' MSL takes 50 feet out of the 79' and 89' foot clearance numbers leaving pass-over clearances of just 13 and 23 feet.What a can of worms. My condolences to her friends and family. Neither ASN nor the Flight Safety Foundation are responsible for the completeness or correctness of this information. If so, should have gone missed a second time. Why assume a or b? "Clipped from the July 1975 Newsletter:https://www.ninety-nines.org/pdf/newsmagazine/197507.pdf(See pdf sheet 5)Also, a 1967 99's newsletter asks members to write Mayor Minter letters, because the Orange County Chapter was still fighting to keep SMO open at that time.https://www.ninety-nines.org/pdf/newsmagazine/196704.pdf(See pdf sheet 15, top left)If not for the Minter's efforts, SMO would have been closed and surrendered to developers decades ago. Silos? ).Although there is not likely to be an easy way to know what google tolerance/accuracy is, my posting of the obstruction database for that stack referenced a pdf for decoding the raw record, which includes how to decipher the declared accuracy of the "verified" FAA obstruction info. I see no conjecture from the original post; only data from flightaware. 1 / 4. Checking Notams for BYI, no mention of towers or obstacles with the exeception of a tower 30nm away. (Although it is interesting to speculate, and discuss.). That's not much time at 90-100kts, about 20 seconds from the time the aircraft hits decision altitude 500 feet above the ground to the time it is paralell to the stacks.On a 3 degree glidpath to LPV minimums you are 54 feet above the normal threshold. The real-life nature of what transpired reveals a complete pilot disregard for a multitude of no-go factors and specifically communicated warnings.https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket/Document/docBLOB?ID=13775462&FileExtension=pdf&FileName=CEN20FA022_CVR_Report_RELEASE-Rel.pdfDocket:https://data.ntsb.gov/Docket?ProjectID=100636. She was WAY low to have hit those. He blamed a hazardous chimney on the Gem State Processing Plant for the deadly crash.Hmmmmmm! The airplane just came up a little bit short. Are youtube's oracles saying a silo was hit?Silos are adjacent but it was the #16-036731 stack in the obstruction database that was hit. Older Model Caravans have a history of crashes in icing conditions. All seven occupants died, including diet guru Gwen Shamblin Lara and her husband, actor Joe Lara. The survey segment of the flight commenced about 14 km to the northwest of the airport and was conducted at a height of about 200 ft above . Burley Airfield should either stop 020 approaches, and/or the "Gem State Potato Processing Plant" should run a pipe up from the Snake River to condense and recover its steam inside the factory, and reposition that isolated lethal stack. Add a loss of power situation and see how you come out. She went full power and could not arrest her descent and hit the stack. 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